Last update 06-Nov-02
Coin image received from John Jensen
Vietnamese legend tuen hoa nguyen bao (in Chinese xuan he yuan bao).
Message from Allan Barker (02-July-02):
About the Tuyen Hoa Nguyen Bao coin, I think that chance that this is real is very low. I can not examine under the microscope so I am only about 90% sure. But there are many things wrong.
Thuan Hoa Huu Bao is actually very rare, and most seen lately are faked from a Chinese Xuan He coin by changing the right character. The calligraphy of the Vietnamese coin is very different than the Chinese Xuan He coins. This coin is of Chinese origin calligraphically.
The coin's calligraphy is unbalanced, meaning the Nguyen does not fit well, thus it was probably made from a Chinese Xuan He Tong Bao. It is not a coin that was designed all by one calligrapher. Vietnamese Tuyen Hoa Huu Bao is actually a very beautiful and well designed coin.
Is there any reason to associate this with the Tuyen Hoa Huu Bao, or to assume it is of Vietnamese origin? The Chinese did sometimes placed the Yuan on the right, particulary during the Southern Song period. The Chinese Yuan and Vietnamese Nguyen on the right are different, but both were quite beautiful. This is not such a nice Nguyen, or Yuan.
To be complete, the Vietnamese did make several coins
by using Chinese coins and changing one or two characters.
These are called substitution coins and there are about
12 to 15 know types. Things like,
I have compared the Tuyen Hoa Nguyen Bao with this series to see if it might fit there. The fit is not good, the look and feel is different, and most of the Vietnamese coins were made by *mixing* different characters from Chinese coins, not by creating new characters by hand.
Scientifically, the coin is quite doubtful, but this
should be confired by close examination.